About PetersPioneersDeep Ancestry: Genealogy and DNA

By Peter Biggins

Cathi Biggins, Sean Biggins, Roger Byrne, Michael Patrick Carroll, Maureen Lyons Carroll, Paul Drueke, Michael McDonnel, Sheila Carroll Krippner, Marc Matthews, Maureen O'Brien, and Leo O'Brien contributed to this story.

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Genetic genealogy can tell us about the deep ancestry of our ancestors and, in some case, which tribe or sept our ancestors came from. This story addresses the deep ancestry of Peter and Marilyn Carroll Biggins through the use of Y-chromosome DNA, tested by Family Tree DNA. Y-DNA is passed down from father to son, much like surnames. By testing a living male, we can learn about the deep ancestry of his paternal line. Testing can also help determine how closely two people are related.

Abbreviated Y-DNA SNP Tree

IJK-L15     44000 BC     Southern Iran     203,000 T
IJ-P124
39000 BC
South-eastern Iraq
76,300 T

I-M223
15000 BC
Southern Germany
7,300 T

Y63570
1000 AD
8 T
K-M9     43000 BC     Western Pakistan     127,000 T
P-P226     29000 BC     Eastern Mongolia     111,000 T
R-M173     20000 BC     Eastern Kazakhstan     106,000 T
M420
15000 BC
Southern Russia
17,100 T

Viking

FGC11896
1200 AD
Scotland
155 T
Angus Og, Lord of the Isles
M343     17000 BC     Uzbekistan     90,000 T
M269     4350 BC     Southern Russia     87,000 T
L151     2950 BC     Ukraine     76,000 T
P312     2750 BC     Southern Germany     54,000 T

Celtic
U106     2900 BC     Poland     19,000 T

Saxon
L21     2650 BC     Southern England     31,000 T DF27     2600 BC     Pyrenees
10,600 T
U152
2550 BC
Italy
8,700 T
Z18
2200 BC
Poland
2,250 T
Z381     2650 BC     Northern Germany     14,800 T
DF21  2350 BC
England  3,300 T
CTS4466
300 BC
Munster
1,600 T
L226
250 AD
Munster
800 T

DC782
900 AD
Munster
100 T

Brian Boru
DF41  1850 BC
England  800 T
Z2961  1950 BC
England  5,700 T
Z195
2550 BC
Pyrenees
6,000 T
ZZ12_1     2500 BC
Pyrenees     4,300 T
DF98
2000 BC
215 T

L1271
1150 AD
5 T
House of Wettin
Z301     2450 BC
11,000 T
Z3008
450 AD
England
330 T

Colla Uais

Ulster

Carthend

S953
550 AD
Tirkeeran
91 T
Z16291
150 AD
Munster
102 T
Ely Carroll

BY20010
1250 AD
Munster
10 T

Charles Carroll of Carrollton
A600
1450 BC
9 T
England
L745
1150 AD
200 T
Scotland & England

House of Stuart
M222
50 BC
5,300 T
Ulster

FGC23592
700 AD
40 T
Ulster

Cenel Moain
FGC6550
600 AD
80 T
Ulster

Hy Maine
Y5058
150 AD
Leinster
161 T

Breassal Breac
Z1513
1000 AD
Ulster
91 T

Northern Ui Neill
U198
1500 BC
1,480 T
L48
2350 BC
9,000 T

CTS10893
800 BC
600 T
BY75184
1650 AD
2 T
BY3164
1350 AD
Ulster
7 T
Y5610
1050 AD
Munster
69 T
BY23501
850 AD
England
3 T
BY216377
1150 AD
Ulster
2 T
FT79210
950 AD
Leinster
4 T
BY3323
400 BC
Old Saxony
9 T
William Byrne 1864 AD
Albany, NY
Patrick Beggan
1807 AD
Co. Cavan
Michael O'Brien
1815 AD
Co. Cork
Wlliam Mathews
1644 AD
Wales
Daniel McDonald
1813
Ireland
Edmond Carroll
1835 AD
Co. Limerick
Johann Drueke
1743 AD
Westphalia
Roger Byrne
kit 208416
Peter Biggins
kit 127469
Leo
O'Brien
kit 197598
Marc Matthews
kit 116493
Michael McDonnel
kit 252843
Michael Carroll
kit 198624
Paul Drueke
kit 230496

The year shown is a real rough estimate by Family Tree DNA of the year the SNP was born.
"T" is the number of testers at Family Tree DNA as of January 2023.

Definitions
  • DNA. Deoxyribonucleic acid, a chemical consisting of a sequence of hundreds of millions of nucleotides found in the nuclei of cells. It contains the genetic information about an individual and is shaped like a double-stranded helix.
  • SNP. A Single Nucleotide Polymorphism, a mutation in the DNA that happens when a single nucleotide (A, T, G, or C) in the genome sequence is altered. A person has many SNPs that together create a unique DNA pattern for that individual. Family Tree DNA offers Big Y, which tests a large portion of the Y chromosome and identifies SNPs that have occurred down to the present time. SNPs occur randomly. The number of SNPs can vary a lot by tester. On average over a large population for a long time period, Big Y SNPs occur every 120 years.
  • Haplogroup. A group of similar haplotypes that share a common ancestor having the same SNP mutation Haplogroups are assigned letters of the alphabet, and refi nements consist of additional number and letter combinations.

Y-DNA Testing Results for PetersPioneers

Paternal Ancestor
Birth Year, Place
Male Tested
Relationship
Kit #
Test
Haplogroup
SNPs
FTDNA Projects Comments
Patrick Beggan/Biggins
1807, Drumgill, County Cavan, Ireland
Peter Biggins 127469
Big Y-700
R-L151, P312, L21, DF21, S971, F24434, Z3000, Z3006, Z3008, S953, ZZ13, FT14481, BY3164 (1350 AD). See The Story of My Y Biggins,
Clan Colla,
DF21,
Null 425
Sean's and Peter's ancestors had farms across the road from each other in Will County, Illinois, southwest of Chicago.
The name Biggins comes from beag, the Irish for little. BY3164 Biggins DNA includes people named Beggan, Beaghen, Bigham, and Little. See Biggins/Beggan Irish Roots.
Sean's DNA matches Peter's, but it is not so close as to suggest that their ancestors were brothers or first cousins. Sean shares a SNP named FT17167 with Eric Began whose ancestor Michael Beggan was born in County Fermanagh in 1781. Peter does not have this SNP.
Z3008 is the DNA of The Three Collas, brothers who lived in 4th century Ulster. BY3164 descends from brother Colla Uais and his grandson Carthend. Carthend lived in County Derry in the 5th century on the Faughan River in an area that was later called a barony and named Tirkeeran. The name Tirkeeran comes from the Irish Tír Mhic Caoirthinn, which means land of Carthend. See: Faughan River
James Biggins
1822, County Monaghan, Ireland
Sean Biggins, whose ancestor lived across the road from Peter's in Illinois 146867
Big Y-700
R-L151, P312, L21, DF21, S971, F24434, Z3000, Z3006, Z3008, S953, ZZ13, FT14481, BY3164 (1350 AD), FT17167 (1400 AD) Biggins,
Clan Colla,
DF21,
Null 425
Johann Drüecke
1743, Elspe, Westphalia, Germany
Paul Charles Drueke, first cousin of Peter 230496
Big Y-700
R-L151, U106, Z301, L48, Z9, Z30, Z27 Z345, Z2, Z7, CTS10893, A6389, BY3323 (400 BC) Drueke,
U106,
Germany,
Anglo-Saxon
Paul's DNA matches people from England (Arnold, Bennett, Ozment, Phipps, Scott, Self, Wooten, Wright), Wales (Ellis, Price), Scotland (Armstrong, Reed, Russell), and Ireland (Moore). Many people with English names have Germanic origins. The term Anglo-Saxon is used by some historians to designate the Germanic tribes who invaded and settled the south and east of Britain from the early 5th century up to the Norman conquest in 1066. Our ancestor is from Westphalia, which was part of Old Saxony.
William Mathews
1644, Wales
Marc Thomas Matthews, second cousin of Peter 116493
Big Y-700
R-L151, P312, L21, DF41, S775, A600, BY23501 (850 AD). Matthews,
L21,
DF41/CTS2501
Marc and Peter are great grandchildren of William Peter and Elizabeth Berles Drueke.

From S775 are descended the Royal Stewarts iof Scotland.
Edmond Carroll
1835, Ballyneety, Limerick, Ireland
Michael Patrick Carroll, second cousin of Marilyn, once removed 198624
Big Y-700
R-L151, P312, DF27, Y5058/A641, Y5061, FT44660, BY61861, FT79210 (950 AD) Carroll,
Breassal Breac,
DF27,
McCarville
Michael's DNA matches Ryan, O'Dwyer, Lee/Leary, Gorman, and Kennedy, as well as Carroll. These families descend from Breassal Breac who lived in Leinster around 200 or 100 BC. They settled in the 13th or 14th century in County Tipperary and County Limerick. DF27 DNA is the Gascon & Iberian branch of R-P312. See Breassal Breac DNA.
Daniel McDonald
1813, Ireland
Michael McDonnel, third cousin, once removed, of Marilyn 252843
Big Y-700
R-L151, P312, L21, M222, S658, , DF104, DF105, S588, S603, BY3342, FGC23592, FT120288, BY216377 (1150 AD). Gormley,
Cenel Eoghain,
Clan Donald (&LSP8J),
M222
Michael's FGC23592 DNA is associated with a group called Cenel Moain (S603, FGC23592), a subset of Cenel Eoghain (S660, S588), a subset of Northwest Irish (M222). Northwest Irish was originally identified in a Trinity College Study and said to be descended from Niall of the Nine Hostages, who lived in Ireland in the 4th/5th century. Michael's DNA group can be seen on Iain Kennedy's M222 tree and Alex Williamson's Big Tree. Cenel Moain surnames can be seen on Ken Graham's Chart and Micheal McNally's Chart. Aidan Byrne maintains a Facebook page for the S603 Community. A history of Cenel Moain can be found in Familia 1990: Ulster Genealogical Review, Number 6
Thomas Foy
1800, Derreennascooba, Mayo, Ireland
None. Looking for a distant Foy cousin of Peter Foy,
Fay,
Hunt
There may be a possible tester among descendants, but none has been identified yet. See Foy/Fee Irish Roots.
Adam Berles
1794, Landenbeck, Westphalia, Germany
None. Looking for a distant Berles cousin of Peter There may be a possible tester among descendants in Grand Rapids, Michigan, but none has been identified yet. Landenbeck is 16 miles northeast of Elspe.
John Francis Flannery
1788, Derreenmanus, Mayo Ireland
None. Looking for a distant Flannery cousin of Marilyn Most likely R-L151, P312, L21, M222 Flannery,
M222
There may be a possible tester among descendants in Green County, Wisconsin, but none has been identified yet. Clan Flannery sponsors a Flannery DNA project at Family Tree DNA. Of the Flannerys from County Mayo who had tested their Y-chromosome DNA as of June 2012, all match up with a group called Northwest Irish. Northwest Irish was originally identified in a Trinity College Study. Two of these Northwest Irish have ancestors from the townland of Sarnaught in the civil parish of Aglish, which is nearby Derreenmanus: kits 36430 and 221086. See Flannery Clan.
Y-DNA Related by Marriage
William Byrne
1864, Albany, New York
Roger Byrne (1962-2021), son-in-law of Peter 208416
Big Y-700
I-M223, P222, CTS616, FGC15071, M284, L1195, L126, FGC20063, FT2393, S7753, Y4142, Y4751, FTT7, BY3610, Y63570, BY75184 (1650 AD) Byrne,
M223,
Null 425
Roger has "Isles-Scot DNA." His DNA matches closest with a Donald Austin Byrne (1934-2017), whose ancestor, Austin Thomas Byrne (1859-1934), was born in Dublin. He also matches closely with three testers named McGivern, which is associated with County Down. Byrne may be a form of McGivern. Alistair Moffat and James F. Wilson in the 2011 book, The Scots: A Genetic Journey, say that "One of the most ancient Y lineages in Scotland is known as M284." They say it developed a later subset called L126 which is more common in Scotland. It is "also seen in Ulster, not only amongst plantation families (migrants from Scotland and elsewhere, most of whom arrived in the seventeenth century) but also in those of older pedigree. This shows an ancient connection across the North Channel." See: Y-67 Genetic Distance: I-L126, FGC20063, FT2393, S7753, Y6162, Y4751
Michael O'Brien
1815, County Cork, Brough, Ireland
Leo O'Brien, uncle-in-law of son Edward 197598
Big Y-700
R-L151, P312, L21, Z253, L226, FGC5660, Z17669, ZZ31, FGC5628, FGC5623, FGC5659, ZZ34, DC782, Y5610 (1050 AD) O'Brien,
L226
Leo shares Y5610 (1030 AD) with Conor Myles John O'Brien of Dromoland Castle who traces his ancestry back to Brian Boru. Brian Boru was born circa 940 in what is now County Clare and died in the Battle of Clontarf, north of Dublin, on April 23, 1014. See Irish Type III DNA. L226 DNA type also is called Dalcassian and Irish Type III. See DC782 Brian Boru DNA

Hopefully, we will learn more about our deep ancestry through testing of more of our descendants.

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